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Dissident's avatar

I appreciate and commend the work that you, ETA, Smart Elections and others are doing here. I am beyond convinced that the results were manipulated, and agree that we need to pressure Secretaries of State, Governors, and Democratic AG's to take these findings seriously and investigate/allow audits to verify the results. That said, it is maddening that the Harris campaign conceded so quickly and just disappeared. Infuriating. With so many red flags, there was no excuse for the failure to seek audits where appropriate. Especially given the fact that the destruction of our democracy (and our nation) was imminent and obvious at that point. This is important work. Thank you for your diligence.

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Wendy E's avatar

I didn't believe he won the night of the election and I fully believe in your findings now. When he said "I don't need the votes" while most candidates would be encouraging people to get out and vote before the polls closed. It was a frustrating win for sure when I saw Kamala winning in many of the swing states and then it suddenly flipped red. There are roughly 89 million registered women voters in the US. That's a large voting bloc. After the insurrection on Jan 6th many male voters in favor of Trump turned away from him in this second campaign. There are many things that tell me you are on the right path. The question is, besides bringing it to our Democratic reps and Senators, how can we guarantee that our voting machines are even safe for mid-terms?

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This Will Hold's avatar

Thanking Elon, ‘…he knows those vote counting computers better than anyone…’

Every single Democrat—elected or not—should’ve been screaming after that comment. Why does Donald Trump’s largest campaign contributor have access to ‘vote counting computers’?

Instead of yelling, we’ve been gaslit and conditioned into silence, like we need their permission to speak the truth. But if they don’t act, they’re going to find out in 2026. There’s a reason MAGA legislators are perfectly fine passing bills that harm their own constituents: they know votes don’t matter when the outcome’s already rigged.

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Amanda Finlayson's avatar

Palantir, Eaton and Starlink.

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Goldie's avatar

Exactly. That's why the GOP aren't even bothering to go to town halls and don't care their constituents are mad. It's blatantly obvious they are going to rig it again

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This Will Hold's avatar

BLATANTLY!

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Patrick Esco's avatar

I have totally been feeling this too shortly after the election I looked into whatever happened to the coffee county data just wondering and nobody knew 🤷‍♂️ just curious on votes that’s voted all down ballot for their representatives and other candidate as president what was the break do you know? Was it heavily skewed towards Trump as I can imagine? That’s more than enough to say in a heavily contentious election they all broke for Trump? Even not focusing on Swing States I think nationwide every state and county he by a huge percentage out performed and had a lot of questionable flips by Democrats down ballot but for him as President

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Marthe du Sud-Ouest's avatar

There was no single strategy that made the difference. Let’s not forget that social media propaganda is laser-targeted. It can demoralize would-be voters and persuade them to switch or stay home. On a previously unimaginable scale. This is a certainty and it definitely bore fruit.

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Kathleen Morris's avatar

Unfortunately true!

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Jaime Ramirez's avatar

You are absolutely right!

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Sarah Gillian Bower's avatar

AND that last sentence right there is WHY I won’t vote. When that shit gets fair, I’ll vote all day.

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Moving Joy Around's avatar

But you need to ask yourself. Was the driver of the 2024 election the way Musk manipulated the vote, or was it the huge number who decided not to vote?

Giving up your vote just makes their cheating easier.

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This Will Hold's avatar

There is no “huge number who decided not to vote”—that’s a fallacy. Those votes were discarded to prevent the vote-flipping algorithm from escalating indefinitely. That’s why social media is flooded with people saying their vote has simply “disappeared.”

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Melissa Redman's avatar

I read that in several places just before and after the election.There were places that were reported to have thrown out ALREADY COUNTED VOTES.Chances are very good that late mail in votes were trashed/shredded too.

Cheaters will always cheat.They don't know any other way.And we are now reaping the rotten fruit of a truly stolen election,done with straight faces.

Does anyone know how to even get a number on how many potential votes were actually cast,and and how many are now MIA?If the machines were truly rigged to do this,and/or the people who were counting paid to discard certain votes,how do we even find out for certain?That's the important questions to answer.Without the answers,there's not proof.But proof or none,it has for sure looked shady all the way around.Like,Too good to be true shady.

One more thing(Thanks,Columbo!!)So say we find all the actual numbers,verify the actual missing/discarded votes,how do we get these people out and the actual winners put where they should have already been?And what fallout could insue from such a monumental mess?Would it even matter,because it seems no one could really win in this situation.

It's just so stupid that people have stooped to this kind of low,and far too many people believe it's okay(!!)to act like this!!

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Sarah Gillian Bower's avatar

It WAS FUCKING MUSK.

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Kathleen Wilber's avatar

The percentage of people who did not vote in this election was not significantly different from the number in prior elections. The number of people who don't vote is always larger then seems reasonable. That's not a new thing.

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Trip Barthel's avatar

I agree that the presidential vote was manipulated. What I can’t figure out is why the congressional vote still favored the republicans. The presidential and congressional votes usually align.

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Moving Joy Around's avatar

Sometimes they align, but often voters will elect either very slightly aligned, or slightly opposed congresses to a new president.

If voters intended to elect Harris, it’s not a stretch to imagine them electing a Republican Congress to balance her out. That makes a lot more sense then thinking they just decided to go full crazy with Trump.

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Jay Spencer's avatar

Ask whether or not those who "decided not to vote" were actually disenfranchised instead. See Gregpalast.com for THAT story.

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Bill's avatar

Please don’t refuse to vote.

Voting is the ONLY requirement for maintaining Citizenship in the USA.

Yes, our country is under the cloud of authoritarian (Fascist) rule at present. We can argue how we got here, but the only action that We, The People, must now do is step outside of our comfort zones, join up with your fellow patriot activists, donate as much as you can afford (even 5 bucks helps), AND GET OUT INTO PUBLIC SQUARES, STREET CORNERS AND COURT HOUSES with American Flags, Banners & Signage and ENTHUSIASM for this battle. With that from “enough” of us, We Will Prevail.

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Vanda McLelland's avatar

And herein lies the problem. It is maddening that the Harris campaign accepted the outcome and that influential liberals are seemingly just waiting for 2026 to take back congress by default.

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This Will Hold's avatar

Well, there’s a theory behind her silence.

As for the Democrats? Comfortable cowardice has become their standard operating procedure. The GOP hasn’t had a legitimately elected president since Eisenhower—just think about the damage that’s been done, and how much could’ve been prevented if Democrats had grown a spine.

We are, quite literally, donkeys—a party full of Eeyores. And it’s well past time to change that.

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Vanda McLelland's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to respond. Your posts are always a good read. I guess I should have been more specific. I think understand why Kamala is laying low. But I am top shelf frustrated with the lack of visible coordination amongst influential liberals. The chronically reactive dem congress seems dangerously week in PR, messaging, framing a tangible plan that resonates with all constituents, not just the choir. Is it so decentralized? Not just the choir. I’m Canadian so I apologize if my finger is off the pulse. Am I hopelessly naive? The GOP has had a face, for better or worse, for 10 years. Who or what is the face of the Democratic Party? I worry they’ll win congress back by default not by design. Pointing out the lawlessness of the Oval Office is not a strategy.

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Joy Reynolds's avatar

A lot of people think this way, but it points to "us" against "them", as if there are only two options. That is the problem.

We are a nation of millions of individuals, who should have representation to govern, but it devolves into choosing the lesser of two evils and not being represented at all. (the number of House seats was capped, so we are less represented than ever)

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This Will Hold's avatar

The lesser of two evils? She was the most qualified presidential candidate in this country’s history.

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Joy Reynolds's avatar

I happen to agree and voted for her, but my comment was in reference to the general case where we are stuck with a two party system, and our congresspeople simply follow the party line, leaving the citizen's viewpoint unrepresented.

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Marti Butow's avatar

Maybe it took this experience in our national elections to make us and our constitution stronger. Like getting kicked in the shins!?

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Moving Joy Around's avatar

Shins?

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John Schelling Pollock's avatar

Found it in the FAQ of the Common Cause Report. Nothing earthshattering:

The Common Coalition Report

Frequently Asked Questions

"Why did Kamala Harris concede?"

We have long maintained that the Harris team was caught between a rock and a hard place when it came to recounts.

Multiple sources exposed that Trump's associates had lawyers stationed across the country, ready to flood the courts with lawsuits designed to delay any election challenges beyond certification deadlines.

The strategy was simple: run out the clock and land the matter before a compromised SCOTUS-the country has already seen a partisan SCOTUS bench hand the presidency to the wrong candidate in the past. VP Harris couldn't risk this outcome.

There's also the issue of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment-and why it wasn't used to bar Trump from taking office. Remember: MAGA has been lied to and gaslit by Trump and Fox News for four years.

Many of his followers still believe he won the 2020 election. Had Congress invoked Section 3, we didn't-and still don't-have enough Secret Service agents to protect Congress and their families from the violence that would have erupted.

MAGA is no longer under any illusion about who Trump truly is-and who he serves: himself. The Harris team understood they had to let his base come to that realization on their own-and, for the most part, they have. Leaving MAGA is trending. It's time our representatives understood that we are the majority-all of us.

When we speak out together, we give them both the mandate and the courage to act.

Page 17: https://thecommoncoalition.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/TheCommonCoalitionReport_5.14_NM.pdf

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Michael Rutherford's avatar

Let us also not forget the bomb threats at democratic-leaning voting locations. The thinking is that the bomb-threats created a break in chain of custody of ballots and hence could create plausible deniability for any irregularities in the election. It would have made it very time consuming and difficult to prove intentional manipulation or that irregularities weren't just due to accidental loss of records and would have slowed everything down through the courts. It would have also provided a basis to sue to get the ballots thrown out from their side if somehow the other strategies weren't enough. Given they knew it would happen, they could pre-prepare their legal strategies and briefs for which ever side they wanted to argue. A heads I win, tails you lose strategy.

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Kitty's avatar

Theory behind her silence?

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Debbie Fraker's avatar

Read the attached article.

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Gina Kay's avatar

I got it, the Common Cause Report… thank you!

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Rita's avatar

Where is the common cause report?

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John Schelling Pollock's avatar

I’d like to know the answer to that too. Not seeing it in the common cause report.

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Jake Gless's avatar

DNC has not held a legitimate presidential primary in over EIGHTEEN YEARS now.

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Jake Gless's avatar

I know, right? How can any political party pretend to be “democratic” when it’s been EIGHTEEN YEARS and counting since they last offered Americans a legitimate primary?

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Kate Weeks's avatar

What is the theory behind Kamala staying silent?

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Dana Price's avatar

I always wonder about this. How deep are these threats. Think of Bill Maher, PA Fetterman...the list goes on. It's almost like Mar a Lago is kissing the Godfather's ring.

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Lea Menzies's avatar

Or actually the Rebulicans are and I think maybe some Democrats because they did disappear 🤔

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Patricia Bowers's avatar

I think Kamala did try as much as she could in PA. Her campaign remained on the ground there well after the election. Her post-election day campaign emails alluded to wanting to make sure they had done everything they could there. When they were still asking for campaign contributions many balked at why contributions were still needed when the campaign was over. We were hoping for a recount in the Senate Casey/Macormack (sp?) race, which took quite a while to be decided. I held out hope in those days that a recount might uncover something like this. Thank you for bringing this to light now so that we can begin to act!!!

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Lynn Trowsse's avatar

I gave a donation to help Harris with a recount and truthful election results through Blue Act and nothing ever became of it but I was frustrated they added $3.95 to my donation to themselves and then it all went away like a cloud of smoke, never heard anything more about it until just recently. This should've been dine right after the election and brought to the attention of lawyers and judges. Trump knew in 2020 when he threw fit about a recount that it was in the works for him to win the next election as the Heritage Committe went to work on their blueprints for him to follow after the rigged election to make America a dictator run country an benefit the elites. As a former prosecutor I thought she'd have more fire in her gills then to just concede when we could see it'd been rigged! For the life of me I don't know why she didn't demand an investigation, trump sure did, he even begged for fake results from Georgia. I truly think it was all a plan for project 2025 to be written and Musk and Russia to get their coordinates down pat through satellite to interfere with the votes, "The Perfect Storm." Now with the Supreme Court being rigged by trump before he left office we have a huge battle before us but have plenty of evidence and even the fact he's admitted as much twice, back to back that "if he hadn't cheated he wouldn't be our president." He was asked a question by a reporter and replied with the facts as he blabbering before he thinks of what he's saying. I'm sure it's recorded somewhere as I heard him say it and couldn't believe he admitted to it!! The judges on the Supreme Court just seem to rubber stamp all his ludicrous ideas even if they go against our Constitution and that's just blatant treason......

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

I have been trying to reach Sotomayor or Brown Jackson, even Kagen, is there any way to find them or Jack Smith? SOMEONE has to know something! NO ONE believes the men on the S. Court are Traitors!!! Does ANYONE know how to reach anyone who was fired?? Governors are asking for donations, but when I call, I'm told Governors can't get involved with federal issues! What the heck is wrong with EVERYONE??!! I am fearful the people will have to do this themselves!! I wish, I was not 71, I wish I did not have Parkingtons, I wish I could drive, I can't even get on a plane!!! I warned every Dem leader I could LAST YEAR WHEN PROJECT WAS POSTED!!! I told them if they did nothing, runt would use the military against us! NO ONE was listening!! I think no one but me was telling them, I believe everyone thought I was crazy!! I couldn't reach every Dem leader, you have to tell the leaders for your own states!! I tried, but the message system would only let me message my own state!! I tried Jamie Raskin, Hakeem Jeffries, Elizebeth Warren, Richard Blumenthal, Cory Booker, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Amy Klobuchar, Kristen Gillibrand, I also called ALL of these offices, If you don't have a zip code for their district, they usually won't take your message! I've tried cheating by entering address info for one of their offices! I've contacted Mark Kelly, Tim Waltz, anyone on the short list for Harris! Melanie Stansbury of NM, I have seen her speaking, I thought she might listen! I have tried to contact anyone that has asked me for a donation, I have over 100 texts on my phone, and that's after I ran out of money! I sent messages to Dem committees over and over, I told them to send one text with questions, where NO donation is required to answer. A second text for donations only!! I have gotten some texts that say they don't want money, just our answers, I thought they HEARD me, nope, they still ask for a donation! I have messaged or called anyone on my phone who asked for a donation, whether I sent a donation or not. I was on FB promoting any Dem who asked for donations, as best as I could, there were donors crying, because they had no more money to give. I told EVERYONE to send $1, if they could send more, great! But just like WI where a judge was running against a mush supporter who had millions, the Dem won, I believe I helped! I spent days promoting her and I told EVERYONE to send $1, if they could send more great; but money doesn't win, it helps, they do need it, but votes win!! I told them to VOTE, go out and find more people to VOTE, tell their friends and family, tell EVERYONE to tell 2 people to tell two more people, to tell two more people and repeat!! VOTES WIN, you can win with less money, but you CANNOT win with less votes!! I was dropped by FB, I read on the news about it, apparently it affected Instagram as well, I don't feel it was an actual accident!! Millions Dropped, and no way to get back on!? I'm sorry, I haven't been able to go on any social media for several weeks, I was going on FB every day to talk to people, and now I sit at home, doing nothing, waiting for Parkinson's to make me helpless, we aren't all as lucky as Michael J, Fox, although I'm sure he doesn't think he's lucky!!

Although, after reading this series, I guess votes can't win when runt is cheating!! WE ALL have to get these reports out!! This is a war and we are losing!! "THEY told us, this would be a bloodless revolution, if we all stood back and let them do what they want" Quote from the heritage foundation, per runt!! I had no idea about the other society mentioned in these pages!! If the Dems are involved, kiss our country goodbye!! We may have to anyway, at the rate this is progressing!! PLEASE CONTACT ANYONE ON MY LIST!, Copy and paste my words!! I thought WE lost the election, by not voting, see how easy it is to believe the lies!!! It's time to FIGHT, as peacefully as we can, but FIGHT WE must!!

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Greg dean's avatar

Totally agree your your complete post.

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Pamela  Ewen's avatar

🇨🇦 Canadian here my feeling is exactly why why why did Kamala not demand recounts and a forensic audit? I’m guess she was too emotional at the time and just trusted the system, but she had a month at least.

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Kathleen Wilber's avatar

Because Trump's votes exceeded the recount threshold, so no automatic recount was available. Requesting a recount follows procedures that differ in every state, some of them (like the swing state Pennsylvania) requiring the request to be made in each district, and within 5 days of the election. A few states don't allow recounts if the vote difference is above the threshold. In many states whoever requests the recount has to pay the entire cost of it. The allowed basis for a recount, other than the vote difference being less than the threshold, varies state to state. There was no proof of fraud within 5 days of the election. There isn't proof of fraud now, although there is a statistical case being made that seems compelling, but this didn't come out within a few days of the election.

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

OMGOODNESS, only 4 replies!!! I was dropped from Facebook, I don't know why or how to fix it, I just get a blue screen! I paid a fee to get email addresses, I hate to say, I can't find any that are still valid! Does anyone know how to reach K.Harris, The Obamas, The Clintons, Letitia James, Hakeem Jeffries, Ken Martin, Pete Buttigieg? I have sent this to every Dem Congressman, Senator, Govenor, and CNN and MSNBC, NO ONE is answering me!! Not even form letter replies!! Go to FB, Bluesky, I don't suggest X or Twitter, I can guess what they might do with it!! Copy and paste this notice wherever you can, PLEASE!! These reports are too important not to share!! We have an illegal president, he and his whole administration are Traitors!!! runt has already said the Dem party is going to disappear after midterms or before if he can get away with it! I think mush is just another distraction by runt!!!

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Esme's avatar

She was not without strategic advisors to direct her to do so. Plus, she herself is a cool and calculated head under pressure. Some unconscionable threat was involved.

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Debbie Fraker's avatar

Read the attached article.

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Janet Andrea's avatar

Agree with you 100%. Such a flaccid response from the Harris campaign. They must've been aware of some of these shenanigans

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Yeah, what's the deal with conceding on election night? Not even waiting for the mail in ballots to be counted - which usually takes about a week.

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Ellen McCarthy's avatar

So frustrating that harris conceded so quickly. Millions of us had a terrible gut feeling that something was wrong.

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Carolyn Anderson's avatar

I absolutely believe trump did not win. Harris had ALL the momentum, the endorsements, the joy. He had dwindling rallies and nothing but hate. However, because trump made SUCH a fuss about being defrauded in 2020, he is even now still claiming he won, I reckon the dems thought they simply dare not challenge the result.

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Pamela  Ewen's avatar

🇨🇦 I know that Kamala had a, “ fighting fund”, asking for donations. I wonder if that was to pay for a recount

If Americans are actually able to take back their democracy, which is basically gone and the 2026 is rigged as well I don’t know, but if they can do it if they can change things, a law should be instituted about this to protect your country from this criminal act

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

OMGOODNESS, only 4 replies!!! I was dropped from Facebook, I don't know why or how to fix it, I just get a blue screen! I paid a fee to get email addresses, I hate to say, I can't find any that are still valid! Does anyone know how to reach K.Harris, The Obamas, The Clintons, Letitia James, Hakeem Jeffries, Ken Martin, Pete Buttigieg? I have sent this to every Dem Congressman, Senator, Govenor, and CNN and MSNBC, NO ONE is answering me!! Not even form letter replies!! Go to FB, Bluesky, I don't suggest X or Twitter, I can guess what they might do with it!! Copy and paste this notice wherever you can, PLEASE!! These reports are too important not to share!! We have an illegal president, he and his whole administration are Traitors!!! runt has already said the Dem party is going to disappear after midterms or before if he can get away with it! I think mush is just another distraction by runt!!!

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Jay Spencer's avatar

I never trust Democrats to defend "their side," given that the same kleptocrats fund "both sides." Could it be that there's only one side, called "kleptocrats?" Observe, as George Carlin did, that when you hear the (Orwellian) term "bipartisan" (which is a single term for the stealth assertion that all political choices in America are binary) you are about to hear about a larger-than-normal deception? Other common Orwellian terms: (federal) budget deficit (or debt), and the related terms "fiscal responsibility" and "budget ceiling," along with a whole collection of terms appropriate in microeconomics —which apply to currency USERS—but are meaningless for the only ISSUER of our currency, Congress.

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Moving Joy Around's avatar

Is there an avenue to go after Musk?

It would have to be at a state level (California?) to avoid pardons and a biased DOJ, but of anyone he seems like the most likely to crack.

Find him guilty, and either Trump throws him under the bus, or the whole administration crumbles.

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Eileen's avatar

Yes! Give him immunity and a one-way ticket to S. Africa and get him to crack. Putin phone calls. Peter Thiel. All of it.

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Dana Price's avatar

Yes, thank you!

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Esme's avatar

I’ve definitely made a big change in my buying habits, but it’s not enough. We need a general strike.

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Esme's avatar

I guess we shall see, won’t we.

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Teri's avatar

I'm SO glad to see this! I just hope that as more and more people take it seriously and are willing to speak out we may yet get proof. From the start I felt sure that Musk's huge "campaign donation" illegal for a government contractor was secured by his own interference with the election so he'd be in position to enhance his contracts, companies and personal wealth. Then I saw voting data for Pennsylvania indicating likelihood of tampering right around when Trump commented on Musk's "talent with vote-counting machines" followed soon by how he "didn't need Musk to win in Pennsylvania". There were many petition signatures for a hand count of paper ballots in the state ignored, which made me wonder if someone was bribed, as Musk tried his lottery in that state. There's just no way Trump won in all swing states!

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Jeaneen Stephansky's avatar

Can you get some high ranking officials to look at these reports and take them seriously?

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This Will Hold's avatar

We’ve tried—truly. That’s why we’re here now. It’s going to take all of us: millions of Americans demanding that Democrats confront the stolen election. Trump isn’t Nixon, Reagan, or even Bush II—they can’t just let him steal this one and hope to ride it out until the midterms. Until they act, any talk of the midterms is a nonstarter.

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Jeaneen Stephansky's avatar

Have you been able to get anyone who might have some clout to take a close look at your reporting? Now I am thinking along the lines of an investigative reporter? Like someone with the NYTimes?

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This Will Hold's avatar

We’ve been trying for months, that’s why we’re here. This Substack is only one week old—‘We the People’ are the media now.

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Jeaneen Stephansky's avatar

I wonder why your payment system is different than other Substack columns?

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

I have sent this report to EVERYONE, really!! Everyone knows, yet they are doing nothing, WHY?!?

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

OMGOODNESS, only 4 replies!!! I was dropped from Facebook, I don't know why or how to fix it, I just get a blue screen! I paid a fee to get email addresses, I hate to say, I can't find any that are still valid! Does anyone know how to reach K.Harris, The Obamas, The Clintons, Letitia James, Hakeem Jeffries, Ken Martin, Pete Buttigieg? I have sent this to every Dem Congressman, Senator, Govenor, and CNN and MSNBC, NO ONE is answering me!! Not even form letter replies!! Go to FB, Bluesky, I don't suggest X or Twitter, I can guess what they might do with it!! Copy and paste this notice wherever you can, PLEASE!! These reports are too important not to share!! We have an illegal president, he and his whole administration are Traitors!!! runt has already said the Dem party is going to disappear after midterms or before if he can get away with it! I think mush is just another distraction by runt!!!

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Denise's avatar

Your three-part expose must be presented asap to whoever can use it — a Congressional Committee? — the Governors of all the swing states? — anyone who can actually do something to prevent the corruption of the Midterms.

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Mel-Sue's avatar

I think we need Dr Mebane and the professor working with SMART elections to co-author or sign off or start an investigation in this might help gain some traction with higher ups

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Billie Smith's avatar

Who are the writers of this article? It adds to the validity when we share it to say who is responsible.

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Nita's avatar

Get Pete to head up the recount on all swing states. The truth will come out.

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Nita's avatar

Use Pete to get this job done ✅

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NK's avatar

@jennifercohn1

knew EVERYTHING about the voting machines 2015-2016 but no one was paying any attention to her.

She knew machines were connected to the internet.

She may have more info about 2024.

Thanks!

🦅🗽🇺🇲🇺🇦

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Dotty's avatar

Her and Dissentinblooms at substack . The proof is right there in black and white .. this is so alarming . We need to get money outta Elections . If a candidate can't come up with a great honest platform then they have no business running .

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Janet K Bailey's avatar

OMGOODNESS, only 4 replies!!! I was dropped from Facebook, I don't know why or how to fix it, I just get a blue screen! I paid a fee to get email addresses, I hate to say, I can't find any that are still valid! Does anyone know how to reach K.Harris, The Obamas, The Clintons, Letitia James, Hakeem Jeffries, Ken Martin, Pete Buttigieg? I have sent this to every Dem Congressman, Senator, Govenor, and CNN and MSNBC, NO ONE is answering me!! Not even form letter replies!! Go to FB, Bluesky, I don't suggest X or Twitter, I can guess what they might do with it!! Copy and paste this notice wherever you can, PLEASE!! These reports are too important not to share!! We have an illegal president, he and his whole administration are Traitors!!! runt has already said the Dem party is going to disappear after midterms or before if he can get away with it! I think mush is just another distraction by runt!!!

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NK's avatar

Substack is where to go.

Forget Facebook and others.

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Jim Sullivan's avatar

This article could have been written using the posts I’ve been putting out since the election. How did Trump win all the Swing States by a larger margin than the rest of the country? The States that should have had the closest races went bigger to Trump than the national vote. Make it make sense.

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This Will Hold's avatar

We addressed that in Part I of the series and have been circulating the astronomically manipulated data for months. The media won’t touch it—and neither will the Democrats. At this point, it’s become alarmingly clear: ‘We the People’ are the media now.

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Gabrielle Lamp-scriver's avatar

Yes we are, I dont understand why the dems are so afraid to talk about this. Trump & maga screamed so loud and long about unfair elections… that dems are afraid they will be called election deniers when it WAS stolen for real.

Republicans know how to get us to do their dirty work for them. We are so easily manipulated.

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Natalie Rambles's avatar

This is 100% the fault of the democrats.

Optics meant more to them than saving democracy and the people.

They'll be remembered for this til the end of time.

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Mary Jo Marshall's avatar

It’s not the Democrats fault! They aren’t the ones who tampered with anything. What did you want them to do anyway?

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Natalie Rambles's avatar

Fight for the people and democracy. They aren't the ones who committed the crime but also aren't the ones who stood to fight against it. Corruption on one side with complacency from the other are equally abhorrent, equally corrupt and equally detrimental to humanity and democracy. We are watching humanity deteriorate in real time as a result. Holding everyone responsible for egregious behaviors is our duty. Protecting them and defending them from their dereliction of duty is also complacent. Lift the voices fight for us not against us.

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Natalie Rambles's avatar

The events unfolding bring wonder to many minds. Was this the reason Kamala was stopped from pursuing her victory? She refused to follow with the plan set out months ago and was bipartisanly stopped and silenced?

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Mary Jo Marshall's avatar

As an a tech judge who knows these machines I want to learn more so I can make noise here if I need to. I also want to know what to look for as well.

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Mary Jo Marshall's avatar

Any way I can help I will do as well!

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NK's avatar

Smart Elections are working on it.

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Julie Weiner's avatar

Look at Common Cause attempt to prevent ExpressVote XL machines from being used in NY: The ExpressVote XL: Still Bad for New York.

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Jim Sullivan's avatar

You are absolutely correct that it is up to , “We The People”, who are the media now, if you are looking for clear real news facts. I want to thank you for all the work that you have put into this.

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Billie Smith's avatar

Do you know WHO wrote this?

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Jim Sullivan's avatar

I believe “This Will Hold” was the author.

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Penny's avatar

Make it make sense? How about make it stop. Make it go away. Make it RIGHT… not what we are living through that is so clearly WRONG. I’ve followed Stephen Spoonamore and others who were MERELY pointing out that things looked “off” and asking that those in power request hand counts - to no avail. I’ve heard little 4yo musklet chant “They’ll never knowwwww…” while his dad tried to shut him up laughing nervously… so I’m more than ready for the truth to come out and be dealt with… and for all this bullshit to end so we can all get on with our lives.

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Katie's avatar

We can only hope that the lawsuit goes through Rockland County courts - hopefully we can get a recount elsewhere after that!

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Jim Sullivan's avatar

Hopefully there will be recounts all over the country. If they do a true recount and prove Trump is not legitimately in office, then what? What would actually happen, it’s doubtful that anyone has any real idea of what will happen. One would think that he would and should be removed.

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Donna Lovern's avatar

Also the down ballot races in those swing states went Democratic. That does not happen. A Democrat does not vote for someone like Trump then vote all down ballot Dem.

IT DOES NOT HAPPEN! The race was rigged 100%.

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Jim Sullivan's avatar

Exactly, the down ballots and the bullet ballots make no sense whatsoever. What is not understandable is why didn’t the democrats jump on this right away.

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Shalone's avatar

They cheated .period. I have no doubt.

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Dana Briggs's avatar

I’M IN WITH JIM‼️HE AND I HAVEN’T STOPPED SAYING KAMALA WON‼️👍

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NK's avatar

See SmartElections.

They are working on it.

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Tina Leslie's avatar

Your candidate was awful. Your process for selecting her was suspect. Not hard to figure out.

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Karen's avatar

The Democrats in Congress are living in so much fear they are incapacitated. But… Raskin is a brilliant Constitutional Lawyer and he might listen if enough of US email, call, etc. Senator Warren would listen. Merkley would listen. Stansbury would listen. Sanders would listen. The Squad would listen. Let’s make a list and start a movement—what do we have to lose from our efforts? We have everything to gain. I’m no Organizer—we need an Organizer!

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This Will Hold's avatar

Any of the above.

We believe Senator Tammy Duckworth is our best bet. As a female veteran, she’s built differently—and may be uniquely positioned to act when others won’t.

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Penny's avatar

Elissa Slotkin too!

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Darfi's avatar

Agree! Where Do I sign up to support her?

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Penny's avatar

I’d like to see a coalition between a group of currently seated federal officials (Bernie, AOC, Raskin, Chris Murphy, Chris VanHollen, Elizabeth Warren, Duckworth, Slotkin, Stansbury, Jasmine Crockett, etc) along with some not in office now but savvy about how get things done in government (Buttigieg, Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, etc) plus the new fresh ideas from Gen Z (David Hogg, Matthew Kenyatta, Matthew Frost, Anderson Clayton from NC, James Talarico from TX, etc) and some members of the media/legal advisors committed to speaking truth to power (Rachel Maddow, Katie Phang, Joyce Vance, Kate Shaw, Joy Reid, Alex Wagner, Lawrence O’Donnell, Jim Acosta) - to 1) push questions about the veracity of the election to their logical conclusion - it was stolen or it wasn’t - and act accordingly; 2) keep up a drumbeat of powerful messaging about as much of the terrible things happening everyday under this cabal as possible, and 3) keep Americans engaged by coordination with 50501, Indivisible, etc., to foster >3.5% sustained engagement to stop the freight train that is headed right at us and gaining momentum every minute that the cabal is in place.

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Karen's avatar

Yes we can keep numerous Americans informed BUT there are millions of voting Americans we haven’t reached or even reached out to. I live in very red TN in MAGAville where the Felon’s promises haven’t been kept and the horribly vulnerable and desperate poor who really believed he would make their lives better have been made more desperate. As for the election, quite possibly it was manipulated—Trump didn’t need Musk’s dollars but he did need computer interference via Starlink and granted Musk millions of dollars after he “won” the election. The people pushing Truth to Power are wonderful and awesome and I absolutely support all of them —BUT they can’t reach MAGA because MAGA is only listening to FOX propaganda and that places US in a difficult communication problem: how do we reach out to MAGA and survive? Some of you are going to despise me for this but I really DO know how to reach out to MAGA: treat them as you want to be treated. No hate, no fear, no discrimination, no disrespect. Tell your tale and be honest. Here’s what MAGA want: a Champion for Them. That’s what Trump promised and won’t ever deliver. They want jobs, education, understanding, healthcare, their kids to have more than than the abject poverty they have lived and are living; they want a Savior and when Trump presented himself as that Savior, they bought in. Here’s what my MAGA neighbors want:

The ability to build their own deck without having to pass a state test and paying a fee for licensure to rebuild the same deck they built 20 years ago; the capability to hunt for food without taking a one day course in shooting when they have hunted for food since they were 12 years old. Their problem is too much government and Trump promised them relief from that. Musk chain sawed the only help they had and now they have none. This is the perfect time to reach out them. If we can reach out to MAGA, if we can be that helpful with truthful information and integrity without blame and shame. And I will add this: I am a deaf woman reaching and I will not stop, I am unstoppable!!! How about You?

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TrinaCassadine's avatar

We need military buy-in. We need law-enforcement but-in. We need alliances with foreign countries with money and guns. Trump don’t give a damn about law or truth and it will not move the needle. Only power will

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Urban Hermit's avatar

It's been my experience that my own congressional representatives rarely acknowledge my emails. If they respond at all, it's always a form email that often doesn't directly relate to my original correspondence. In fact I saw or heard somewhere that they mostly keep a running count of pro and con phone calls and ignore emails. Additionally I doubt contacting any representative or senator other than your own is a waste of time. It's pretty apparent that their primary interest, even among the good ones, is getting re-elected. Sorry to be such a downer.

On the other hand, if we knew the 88 specific counties in question, I think residents in those counties putting pressure on their registrars and county officials through personal contact and the relevant secretaries of state to just audit a suspect precinct or two to test the hypotheses would be a great start. I mean, these audits could easily be done quietly with just a couple of people including an IT and OT engineer to inspect the equipment and someone to manually count a couple of hundred or thousand ballots and write and publish a short report. If the audits confirmed the hypotheses it would provide enormous incentive to widen the investigations.

After all, elections are administered by the states and counties, not by Congress. What do you think?

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Karen's avatar

My red red members of Congress always acknowledge my emails and calls. Two of them respond themselves and the other sends her monthly report. Don’t censure emails to Congress—censorship is an authoritarian act and we are the only ones who can stop it. I email three or more times a day and call a few times daily and I will not relent nor will I concede to being ignored. All of US need to swamp this swamp with thousands upon thousands of emails, petitions, calls, and actions. Let me put it this way: if we don’t, who will? Gather your grit and your guts and just do it!

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Penny's avatar

Makes sense to me. And while the issue deserves A LOT of attention if what seems clear to me can be proven, in the current climate of insanity and incompetence it may be more effective to get an ironclad case together before shouting to the rooftops about it. There are plenty of lawyers who want to save our democracy who could weigh in once the evidence has been collected and advise on path forward…

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Michael Scott Gary's avatar

Remember what Mark Twain said about lawyers ?

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TrinaCassadine's avatar

Be the organizer for now. These people are about to genocide us. What is the first step? I’ll do it.

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Karen's avatar

Go to MobilizeUs.com or Indivisible or MoveOn or PeoplePower.com, gather Al of the information you can and go from there! I am a Senior Citizen, deaf woman who writes and writes and petitions avidly BUT this torch NEEDS TO COME FOM YOUNG PEOPLE. Excuse my shouting but it seems to me that millions aren’t listening—young people are the answer to eradicate this evil Congress and remove SCOTUS which has been given the lifetime capacity to destroy Democracy, undo DEI and undo discrimination against any person other than white people and spread their hate into law. Young people are the ones that can create the change America needs! Connect with David Hogg whom the DNC censored! Just Wade in and you will discover how to swim!

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Karen's avatar

Raskin is a member of the ABA, a member of Congress and has studied Constitutional Law. I am a former Counselor and now an organic farmer who has never had one course in Constitutional Law and am aware of only what I read and perceive. Personally, I would trust Mr. Ra skin’s capabilities pertaining to Constitutional law while knowing that capacity far supersedes mine. You?

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Black Raven's avatar

The thing is what are the Democrats in office going to do about this? They're still sleeping on this. They just can't fathom this happening. They think that because they had their own lawyers overseeing the ballot counting the night of the election that it was done fairly. What they fail to see is that this was done internally. Out of sight. They were never going to see physical cheating. The Democrats in office need to start as of yesterday making a plan on how to fight these fascist diabolical megalomaniac narcissistic sociopath republican regime. We shall see if they have enough spine to do something before it is too late. Another thought. Please, please, please. Even though it is a great possibility that they cheated. Do not let this discourage you. If anything it should give you more resolve to get out there and VOTE no matter what. We can't get complacent or get apathetic. Stay focus and proactive in continuing the fight. Write to your representatives and demand they help protect our votes from subversion of this corrupt fascist regime. 🗽🇺🇸🌎☮️🫂💙

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Dissident's avatar

As much as I admire, respect, and appreciate Marc Elias, it burns me up to hear him say (as he has on several occasions) that 2024 was "a free and fair election." Beyond the issues discussed on this Substack, the voter suppression efforts deployed by the right wing over the past several years were clearly effective at reducing voter turnout and/or disqualifying eligible ballots cast.

It is neither "conspiratorial" nor anti-democratic to (legally) demand transparency and verification of the results of an election. Particularly one as consequential as this.

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This Will Hold's avatar

I can’t even watch him anymore. Same with BTC, MeidasTouch, et al. They’re raking in millions off rage-bait and the suffering of everyday people. It’s performative activism at best — and exploitation at worst.

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Black Raven's avatar

I respectfully disagree. Meidas Touch Network has been a beacon to exposing the republican corruption and their evil need to destroy this country. Could they seem hypobilic at times? Hmm.. maybe. When it comes to YouTube content you have to have titles and thumbnail that's captivating to grab viewers attention. Society in this day and age has a very short attention span. So how else can they get people to watch and get informed if they have a lackluster title? As far as they are making millions. Well, I rather them make millions and use their influence for good rather than the billionaire oligarchy who are now in power willing and able to destroy democracy. At least the Meiselas brothers are pro-democracy and are wanting the best for the USA 🇺🇸. Same with BTC and so many others. Alas they aren't perfect. No one is. The only thing I disagree with, is with their absolute denial or at least they're refusal to accept that maybe, just maybe the 2024 election was rigged. MTN, BTC Adam Mockler, David Pakman and so many others don't believe it was. Who knows maybe secretly they have doubts but they don't want to dissuade the populace from voting because that would make it even worse. This is my opinion of the situation. At least for me I am being open minded of the possibility of election interference.

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This Will Hold's avatar

We’ve been sending them the data for months. If they had done the right thing and informed their audience of millions, so much of this damage could have been prevented. They chose profit over the people.

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Jeaneen Stephansky's avatar

Have you sent data to Rachel Maddow and her team?

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This Will Hold's avatar

Multiple times. That’s part of why we started this Substack a week ago, ‘We the People’ are the media now.

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Black Raven's avatar

Months before the November 2024 election, or months after the election? Because if it was before then how would they know that the election was going to be rigged? If afterward. Then as I mentioned in my last comment. I think that they may have some doubts in confidence but in their mind, they're probably thinking 🤔 well since none of the Democrats in office has brought this to court we don't want to report on something that may backfire on us. And they don't want to dissuade people from voting. Also, in these last special elections this year Democrats having been winning. So that in itself gives them even more of an incentive not to believe the claims of the election being rigged. I'm not making excuses for them. I'm just analyzing and inferring as to why they are acting this way. 🙂 in the end the truth always comes out. When? Only time will tell.

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This Will Hold's avatar

From November 6 to now—truly. We started with the illegal breaches of election equipment, and the moment we had preliminary data analyzed, we began sending that too. They gave Jessica Denison her walking papers just for speaking up about it.

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Greg dean's avatar

I think the pre-election tell was TACO stating with a smug grin ' I don't need your votes, you will not have to vote again'. That was the moment for me the alarm bells started ringing as it ought to have done across America. The difficulty is that you don't know how the miracle could be made to take place.

The rallies were a complete contrast. Harris and Walz packing out their venues with enthusiastic locals across America. The Republican effort was hollow by comparison. This pointed to a resounding win for Harris and Walz.

Imagine the horror and surprise at the results. This cannot be real.

Yet, the result was accepted without so much as a hair turned.

As always in a matter of powerplay, FOLLOW THE MONEY. What's at the end of it the trail is the hows, wheres and why fors. The how's need to be exposed pronto. America can't take much more of the idiot and his degenerate mob.

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Kali's avatar

Apologies if you’ve covered this but I can’t resist asking- I’m assuming you asked pro publica as well? This seems right up their alley

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Dissident's avatar

Sadly, I have to agree, particularly as to MTN. Very disappointing.

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Lizz's avatar

I have to disagree on your comment about Midas Touch. They are ruthless to trump and fascist regime. I have never heard them cosign any BS. I am leary about someone finding issue with several of the pro-democracy independent media, mainly MT Network. They regularly beat out Fox News, Rogan and are the top rated media. 5 million subscribers is a lot of people watching. They get harassed regularly by the maga idiots, death threats, and more. The right wants to sabotage MT. I do however believe the election results were manipulated and agree that Elias is wrong to be so certain it was a free and fair election.

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Jean pSmith's avatar

I absolutely agree. Elias does the angels work in the courtroom, but every time he denies the election was (even possibly) tampered with, I just want to scream!

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cona's avatar

Come on Dems, DO SOMETHING! Do NOT just accept it "comme si comme ça". This is too important to let pass!

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Greg dean's avatar

Love your description of the current US Government.

It will take a coordinated approach and a clear strategy to take out this corrupt cabal 'root and branch'. America and Americans have to organise a cohesive approach involving a broad spectrum of American life. Current representatives, lawyers, analysts, citizens, marketeers, social media influencers, military leaders, Governors - the list goes on. It isn't about republicans v. Democrats, its about right minded citizens against a corrupt regime.

Somebody influential needs to stand up and take the lead. Either that, or the last decent American needs to turn out the lights as they leave.

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Dana Price's avatar

Abso f**king lutely.

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Julie Weiner's avatar

NYS Dems who control both houses and the governor’s mansion were not allowed to vote on VIVA NY, Senator Cleare’s and Assembly Member Brian Cunningham’s bill to ban voting machines that count votes with bar codes voters can’t verify - previously passed by the NYS senate. Passing it would have saved a fortune for counties, which are being grossly overcharged for these machines that produce and count unverifiable “ballot summary cards” that don’t meet NY’s own legal criteria for ballots - which are supposed to list all candidates in a races (which only appear briefly on a touchscreen amd disappear as soon as voters “mark” their choices and “cast” their “ballots.”

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Urban Hermit's avatar

Well I finally got off my ass and did something about this. I downloaded and read The Common Coalition Report, signed the petition requesting ballot audits at Change.org, and donated to Election Truth Alliance and Change.org. In the process I discovered a bunch of new (to me) Substackers and subscribed. It's 4am here and now I feel I may never sleep again, but thank This Will Hold.

I hope others, especially those who live in swing states and the suspect 88 counties will also act. Living in a very blue area outside the suspected states and counties, I doubt my protestations carry much weight, but if you live in a swing state or county that appears to have been suspiciously flipped, please contact your officials.

BTW TWH, can you please list the 88 counties by state and name. I was only able to pinpoint the three Pennsylvania counties in Dr. Mebane's report. If the others are in there somewhere in the graphs, I was unable to identify them.

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Greg dean's avatar

I agree with your latter comments. So much has been published regarding both the election and the corrupt, even illegal actions of the cabal, it needs to be corralled into a unified source record for referrence by all who are interested.

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Mike Cohen's avatar

If only we could get Musk to admit how he did it. It’s maddening!

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Laurie T Miller's avatar

Musk sent texts about what he was doing.

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cona's avatar

Where? When? On what platform?

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This Will Hold's avatar

We cover that in Part I. The New York Times itself reported on his drug use and a text exchange with a confidant—where he literally says Democrats won’t be ready for his ‘lasers from space.

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Sandra Nicht's avatar

he's always been hinting around the margins on his own platform. read Mother Jones, they have done a number of in depth articles looking into his and Thiel's machinations.

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Jonda Ward Young's avatar

I don’t understand your leaving such an important comment with no further info. Not helpful. Is it just something you heard or read somewhere or did you read the texts? Reference?

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Laurie T Miller's avatar

I read, research and try to summarize. I am still getting up to speed in my writing and will provide reference information in the future. Meanwhile, I will go back and supply my reference sources. Thank you for your patience.

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Laurie T Miller's avatar

I am new on substack, still pulling it together, so please pardon. Here’s a link to one of the posts that I have read, summarized and responded too. I will follow up with another link to substack “Narrative with Zev Shalev.”

When I have questions I do further research pulling information from reliable resouces. I will make notes on these resources.

The information in “This Will Hold’s post is filled with computer lingo, maybe this isn’t unfamilar to you?

I don’t consider this easy reading, even with my experience as a MacIntosh technician with a “key” on a large database. I have taken notes then written for the purpose of clarification.

I believe an image of Musk’s text is in this post.

https://open.substack.com/pub/thiswillhold/p/she-won-part-iii-the-devil-is-in? I believe that image of Musk’s text is in this post.

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Emily Diller's avatar

We know. Planatir did it then erased its tracks. You need a minion to squeal

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Deborah  Mosichuk's avatar

Ask Little X

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Flobert's avatar

Extremely important!

Must read and must act NOW !

t proves it is obvious that data has been manipulated. It was already obvious to many observers (including foreign countries).

May our dear democrats prove that: (1) they are able to make a decision? (2) they are able to move swiftly?(after the despicable failure of Jan 6 procedure), (3) they have understood the current catastrophic mess will only be worsening while midterms are far (and Trump may threaten the next elections)? (4) they accept a risk of failure?, (5) they are able to communicate effectively ?

Recounting is not a big deal and is easy to launch.

It has to be done in all swing states (Trump tried massively in 2020) without trying to be too smart eg. trying to assess in advance the most convincing recounts.

The Press likes fresh / exclusive / spectacular information. If Dems continue to display information drop by drop through whatever (changing) Democrat elected officials on social networks they will again complain about the Press. They need strong expert back up as well. Please build a communication strategy.

Even if there is no proof of mechanical or software manipulation (your 2 previous articles) the data analysis proves manipulation beyond reasonable doubt. The comments of Trump, Musk and MAGA officials are confounding.

And it might well be that as soon as results appear unconvincing and numerous electors attest their vote has been changed, some people in the field may be encouraged to attest mechanical/software interference during or before the last elections.

MOVE AHEAD !!!!!

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Tess Dirienzo's avatar

Why in this day and time, are voters not given or allowed a copy of their submitted ballot as proof? Just as we get a receipt for proof of payment on a credit card or store purchase?

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Shauna's avatar

THEY keep gas lighting that 2020 was a fraudulent election because...EVERY ACCUSATION IS AN ADMISSSION OF GUILT...If they tout that 2020 was rigged and that then it obviously and was proven not, then we Dem's will be TOO indignant to say 2024 WAS rigged..we want an audit. We gave them an audit AND then they had the voting machines while doing that too. REMEMBER trump and Elon were both facing criminal charges...that's a motivator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To TAKE ALL THE POWER..forever :) like Russia 2.0 that we are now heading to BE :( We must turn over every moldy stone !

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Roxana Chitu's avatar

As we came to realize they are projecting onto the others whatever they are doing .... so by logical deduction : "them accusing Dems of rigging the elections in 2020 gave them free way to rig the system in their favour "

It's that simple.

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RedDog28's avatar

Early on in this regime, when Musk and his hooligans were getting started hacking into gov’t systems he alluded to the fact his boys could hack in, leave a back door for future use and no one would know they had been there.

So yeah, I’m not surprised at all.

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Emily Diller's avatar

That’s what all the hacking was about. These goons were doing this right under everyone noses

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Cari Powers's avatar

I’m gonna say it again… I knew this clown didn’t win this election. No flippin way…

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V jones's avatar

I’m British I carnt help but I watched it that night and it wasn’t right and watch back on tv that night when musk called it to rogan hours before something doesn’t seem right she should have won i feel for the USA people

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Jane McKay's avatar

I live in Scotland and for the first time in my life I went to my MP's surgery (a one-to-one meeting with the elected representative for my constituency, in case people are wondering)

Among other issues raised, I voiced my concerns about the 2024 US election. The implications of these potential manipulations, the complex technology involved and the companies capable of doing it has CATASTROPHIC IMPLICATIONS for the national security of the UK and many other countries.

I asked him to at least look at the evidence gathered by ETA as he was unaware of the organisation and the problems revealed by their analysis.

The more UK constituents who attend surgeries and raise this with their MPs the more likely for some traction in the media. Authoritarianism may be just around the corner for us. Ordinary people have been betrayed by successive governments who have sold the UK to US corporations, hedge funds and private equity firms, who then used their made up money to buy real assets while robbing our working class. And Musk wants to buy himself his very own toy fascist party here .... so thanks for that.

Sorry for letting off steam but the long and short of it is that non US citizens can do their bit to support democracy by raising awareness and creating a noise in our respective countries.

Good Luck

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ennebeth's avatar

I didn't want to entertain this idea when it started... But the data is there, staring us all in the face, begging to be backed up by hard evidence of the ballots. We need a hand recount. Now.

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Laurie T Miller's avatar

I've been studying and learning. My thought today about today's reading 'The Technology Dome' created by men lacking moral character for power and greed. We, need to stop these goons!

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S Russell's avatar

Just a week ago, when talking to my 25 year old niece who's from Pennsylvania but attending grad school down here in Florida, she registered early for her mail ballot from PA for the 2024 election. She then told me that she didn't receive her ballot in her mailbox until the day AFTER election day.

I wish I would've known it way earlier so that maybe, I could've had her get the ballot and outside envelope to somebody who could determine if there was a way to track its journey. More importantly, find out when it was sent and if it was "held up" somewhere in the postal chain of custody.

I now wish there was somebody tracking how many others suffered this injustice as well. When you add in the possibility that 10's or 100's of thousands of other swing state voters might've never received their mail-in ballots by election day too, on top of all of the manipulation in vote tallies that appear to have occurred, they could've stolen this election by far larger margins than we even currently believe they did.

What pisses me off to no end is that Harris, Biden, and the Dems did NOTHING to even begin to investigate seemingly ANYTHING at all. That truly is unbelievable...

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Say it with me, class!

"Uniparty!"

The laser pointer flips colors from red to blue every 4-8 years so the other half will start chasing it again. The ones at the top profit no matter which side is in at any given moment.

Gotta think outside the duality box to solve this one.

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Wendy Desjarlais's avatar

According to Election Truth Alliance, the data to audit the paper ballots is only available for 22 months post election. Our best bet is the legal course Smart Elections is taking in Rockland County NY will show ballot manipulation and fuel the effort in auditing Pennsylvania. By then we will firmly be in the 2026 midterms election cycle. If this hasn't been resolved by midterms, we need to determine which midterms would most likely be manipulated by the new Tech brothers and encourage no candidate concede their elections without a hand recount of the ballots. If outside the required margin for recount, we all have to be prepared to ante up dollars to pay for recounts. Skeptics are going to skeptic. Our goal is to secure on audit and snowball from there. It is no longer about the 2024 election, it is about all future elections.

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Gabrielle Lamp-scriver's avatar

Yes, it is about the upcoming elections. We Need to ensure that they are fair and the outcomes are unmenipulated

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serghiy's avatar

…elections ?

…yes honey, that is that dictatorship i was warning you about for YEARS and you didn’t see it coming even it was clear as day and in our face, that’s what regime does and that’s how dictatorship works, but we only have it for few month and we haven’t seen nothing yet, but what exactly EVERYONE, including democrats on congress were doing to stop this for at least FOUR YEARS biden was in WH ? …why democrats allowed him to FINALIZE his coup that is been in progress for all these four years? …why he and his coup organizers are not just free as a birds, but came to power after all this ?

…it’s too late now, fascism is not an ideology it’s the way to take and hold power and once you peacefully install dictator you can not peacefully remove peacefully remove him - FACT

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